WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.240 My name is Joshua Howerin. I'm the 00:00:01.920 --> 00:00:07.279 district manager for Ciudad Soil and Water 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:10.719 Conservation District. Um it's exciting 00:00:07.279 --> 00:00:12.639 to see all of you here. The Boske we all 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:14.799 love and hold dear and that's why people 00:00:12.639 --> 00:00:17.359 are care so much about it. So thank you 00:00:14.799 --> 00:00:19.520 for coming out to um to hear these 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:22.720 presentations and have discussion about 00:00:19.520 --> 00:00:27.119 the BOS. What what we're going to do is 00:00:22.720 --> 00:00:29.840 um have five different 00:00:27.119 --> 00:00:32.239 and then we'll be break into breakout 00:00:29.840 --> 00:00:34.239 groups to discuss specific topics and 00:00:32.239 --> 00:00:36.160 talk about specific topics. Okay. So 00:00:34.239 --> 00:00:39.120 each uh presentation here is going to be 00:00:36.160 --> 00:00:41.040 10 minutes. Now managing the BOS is a 00:00:39.120 --> 00:00:43.280 collaborative effort which is why we 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:46.320 have people here from state forestry 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:49.039 open space division Albuquerque fire 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:51.920 rescue cudd and water conservation 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:54.320 district. um the middle Rio Grand 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.600 Conservancy District and I'm probably 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.920 missing some. So, this is a 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:01.440 collaborative effort to manage uh the 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:04.640 BOS and so it takes takes all of us uh 00:01:01.440 --> 00:01:07.119 to be here together. Um just so you 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:10.159 know, there's snacks here, there's 00:01:07.119 --> 00:01:11.840 bathrooms right outside over there. Um 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:14.479 there's a sign-in sheet. If you haven't 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:17.200 signed in, we invite you to do so. We're 00:01:14.479 --> 00:01:19.520 also aware that not everybody who may 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:22.880 want this information could be here 00:01:19.520 --> 00:01:25.840 tonight and so it is being recorded and 00:01:22.880 --> 00:01:28.240 will be available to every um on the 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:32.720 website afterwards and CUDA will also 00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:35.040 link it on our website as well. Um, so 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:37.596 if you uh are concerned about having the 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.960 back of your head recorded, you can 00:01:37.596 --> 00:01:40.799 [laughter] move to the sides or 00:01:38.960 --> 00:01:42.880 something. But uh just wanted to make 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:46.560 everybody aware that that uh that is 00:01:42.880 --> 00:01:48.159 happening. All right. So we'll go ahead 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.399 and start with our presentations. The 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:52.880 first one's going to be from Yes. 00:01:50.399 --> 00:01:54.880 Will there be any Q&A time? 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:56.720 There'll be after we give the 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:58.880 presentations, we'll move into breakout 00:01:56.720 --> 00:02:01.040 sessions and that'll be a more 00:01:58.880 --> 00:02:03.439 Q&A. That'll be an appropriate time to 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:05.920 ask questions to the specific people 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.840 that you want to ask questions from. You 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:10.000 know, if you want to ask questions about 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:12.480 our breakout sessions will be on 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:15.920 wildlife habitat, one on fuels 00:02:12.480 --> 00:02:17.360 prescription and one on um the fire 00:02:15.920 --> 00:02:21.200 response. So, if you have questions 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.959 about one or other of those topics, you 00:02:21.200 --> 00:02:25.760 can go and you can move around between 00:02:22.959 --> 00:02:30.319 them and ask your questions. 00:02:25.760 --> 00:02:34.080 Does that answer your question? So, no. 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:37.440 All right. Um, so the first presentation 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:39.760 is going to be uh Colleen McRoberts, the 00:02:37.440 --> 00:02:44.461 superintendent um in open space 00:02:39.760 --> 00:02:44.461 division. So, come on. [applause] 00:02:50.956 --> 00:02:52.976 [laughter] 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:57.360 I'm a little shorter. All right. All 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.560 right. really great to see you all 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:02.640 today. Uh thank you for being here. I 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:05.200 know I see many familiar faces. I know 00:03:02.640 --> 00:03:06.879 that you guys are really dedicated to 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:10.319 you. Most of you live right in this 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:12.879 area. Um and this place is very precious 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:15.200 and important to all of you. It is 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:17.200 important to all of us and we want to do 00:03:15.200 --> 00:03:19.360 our best to manage well and that's why 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:22.640 we really do need it to be managed 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:25.840 through community um so through a lot of 00:03:22.640 --> 00:03:29.599 partnership and so I just want to yeah 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:31.519 echo what um Joshua just said. All right 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:33.440 my job right now is to give you kind of 00:03:31.519 --> 00:03:35.599 a big picture overview of Boske 00:03:33.440 --> 00:03:38.159 management and kind of how it became a 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:40.080 state park. 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:42.400 So, just a little bit about the City of 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:45.440 Albuquerque Open Space Division. We 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:50.480 manage over 30,000 acres. We actually 00:03:45.440 --> 00:03:53.280 started acquiring property back in 1963, 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:56.400 but it wasn't until 1984 that the 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:59.760 division was actually formalized. Um, 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:02.159 but the city has been involved land 00:03:59.760 --> 00:04:04.640 preservation for a very long time, 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:07.439 trying to preserve some of our most 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:09.599 unique, cultural, and environmentally 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.519 sensitive places. All the defining 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.599 places. When you think of Albuquerque, 00:04:11.519 --> 00:04:16.479 you think of the Sandas, you think of 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:19.519 the Boske, you think of the volcanoes, 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:22.079 and all of those are protected locally 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:24.000 protected because of the good because of 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.759 how important these places are to our 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:29.280 community. we were willing to tax 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:32.160 ourselves and we were willing to provide 00:04:29.280 --> 00:04:34.080 legislation that allow us to do that. Uh 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:37.600 sometimes we manage these properties 00:04:34.080 --> 00:04:39.759 directly as um the land um owner and 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:42.240 manager and a lot of times we also do it 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:44.639 in partnership. So the petetroglyph 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.720 national monument is managed both by the 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:49.600 national park service and the open space 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:52.080 division. We manage the Rio Grand Valley 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:54.080 State Park in cooperation with the 00:04:52.080 --> 00:04:56.479 middle Rio Grand Conservancy District. 00:04:54.080 --> 00:04:58.400 They own the the Rio Grand Valley State 00:04:56.479 --> 00:04:59.840 Park and were the managing entity. I'll 00:04:58.400 --> 00:05:02.560 give you a teeny bit of a history, some 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:04.639 cliff notes on that in a second. 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.479 I just love this picture. I always put 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:09.039 it in my presentation because it shows 00:05:06.479 --> 00:05:11.680 you if we did not have the forethought 00:05:09.039 --> 00:05:14.880 to protect these places, we would just 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:16.960 be another western urban sprawl city. 00:05:14.880 --> 00:05:18.639 Albuquerque is an amazing place to live. 00:05:16.960 --> 00:05:20.320 We have such a great legacy and we 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:23.120 should just be proud of it and take care 00:05:20.320 --> 00:05:25.280 of it all the time because you know we 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.560 we have this beautiful place in 10 15 00:05:25.280 --> 00:05:30.080 minutes you can be in one of these 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:33.680 places if you live in the city. 00:05:30.080 --> 00:05:35.680 Okay. Oh, there we go. All right. So, 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:37.680 for the Rio Grand Valley State Park, I 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.639 know the the resolution. Let me see if I 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.960 can 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:44.320 I'll do my best. 00:05:40.960 --> 00:05:46.320 Um yeah, if I mess with it, I'm afraid 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:48.000 and I can just talk through it. We're 00:05:46.320 --> 00:05:50.320 going to put these online too along with 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:52.720 the the recording. 00:05:50.320 --> 00:05:55.039 Um, but this is basically a map of the 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:57.280 Rio Grand Valley State Park. On the 00:05:55.039 --> 00:06:01.199 northern end, it starts from essentially 00:05:57.280 --> 00:06:02.880 the PBLO of Sandia or Corales. And on um 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.880 the s I'm sorry, that's the northern 00:06:02.880 --> 00:06:08.560 end. On the southern end, it goes to the 00:06:04.880 --> 00:06:10.400 PBLO of Eleta. It's over 4,300 acres. 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.960 It's about 20 miles. So, it's a pretty 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:15.520 significant area. The entire middle Rio 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:17.120 Grande is about 30,000 acres. and that's 00:06:15.520 --> 00:06:19.520 what the Middle Rio Grand Conservancy 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:21.520 District owns and uh it's a big 00:06:19.520 --> 00:06:23.199 responsibility. Um but they have some 00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:25.919 really great managing entities like us 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:28.400 in this area. 00:06:25.919 --> 00:06:30.560 Okay. Oh, and I just wanted I'm sorry 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:32.160 give you a little of this history. So um 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:34.080 I find this history really interesting 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:37.960 and I brought a couple of books that I 00:06:34.080 --> 00:06:37.960 am recommending to you all. 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.800 All right. It was 1967 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:48.639 that the state actually developed the uh 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:50.720 Rio Grande State Park plan. That plan 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.680 identified that this area should be 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:56.319 managed more than just for irrigation 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:58.319 and for its water resources, but it 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:01.199 should also be managed. It should also 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:03.199 be preserved and managed for recreation 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:05.280 facilities and there should be a nature 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:07.680 center. So that was identified back in 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:10.880 1967 and it took a long time to make 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:12.639 that a reality. Um, the idea for the 00:07:10.880 --> 00:07:15.039 nature center actually was that it would 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:17.199 be at the San Antonio Oxbow across the 00:07:15.039 --> 00:07:19.039 river. And just so that you guys know 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:22.560 this, we're about to open up that 00:07:19.039 --> 00:07:24.400 property to the public next Saturday. 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:28.240 So, please come out for a big opening. 00:07:24.400 --> 00:07:29.919 We've got a flyer there. In 1977, the 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.560 city was able to purchase what we know 00:07:29.919 --> 00:07:34.400 as the Candelary Nature Preserve. And 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:36.560 then it became identified that this was 00:07:34.400 --> 00:07:39.360 the spot for the nature center. and we 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.759 came into a an agreement with the state 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:43.759 uh forest I'm sorry with the state parks 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:46.000 to have the nature center here and they 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.599 do an excellent job and I just want to 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.840 thank them for allowing us to have this 00:07:47.599 --> 00:07:52.000 meeting here and hosting us today. We 00:07:49.840 --> 00:07:53.520 really uh value our nature center. It's 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:55.280 one of the most prized places in the 00:07:53.520 --> 00:07:56.800 city and they do great great 00:07:55.280 --> 00:08:01.120 programming. 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:04.720 Um, in 1982, the city was able to pass a 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:07.360 quarter cent tax that was inspired by 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:10.800 the acquisition of Elena Gyos and try 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:12.639 and and more than that about 7,000 plus 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:15.840 to preserve what otherwise would have 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:17.599 been developed in Sandas. We had a very 00:08:15.840 --> 00:08:20.000 interesting deal with the state court 00:08:17.599 --> 00:08:22.639 with uh I'm sorry, US forestry and with 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:26.080 the academy and we were able to pass a 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:28.080 quarter cent tax and we were able to get 00:08:26.080 --> 00:08:30.639 the majority of that land which was over 00:08:28.080 --> 00:08:33.519 7,000 and give it to the US Forest 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.440 Service. They took that and designated 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.839 as wilderness and gave us a bunch of 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:40.719 trade land. We used that trade land to 00:08:37.839 --> 00:08:44.000 sell it across the state and to develop 00:08:40.719 --> 00:08:46.640 a trust. This allowed us finally to have 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:49.360 the funding to manage all this land that 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:52.640 we were acquiring. And on the top of our 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:54.959 priority was to designate this area as a 00:08:52.640 --> 00:08:57.920 state park. So the city went to the 00:08:54.959 --> 00:08:59.839 state and said, "Hey, the Bos Society 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:01.279 and the city and many other people have 00:08:59.839 --> 00:09:03.760 been wanting to have this area 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:06.720 preserved. we'd like it designated as 00:09:03.760 --> 00:09:08.720 the Rio Grand Valley State Park and we 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:12.080 can help manage it because we now have 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:15.600 this this money and lo and behold in 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:18.480 1983 March this was designated by state 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:21.519 uh statute as or the state act as the 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.959 state park and um that is just a 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.399 tremendous story because it would have 00:09:22.959 --> 00:09:26.560 been completely different had that not 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.959 happened. And how did that happen? 00:09:26.560 --> 00:09:31.920 through the hard work and dedication of 00:09:28.959 --> 00:09:33.519 our community and our legislators and to 00:09:31.920 --> 00:09:36.959 make that happen. So, it's a really 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:39.279 tremendous story. Um, and then a couple 00:09:36.959 --> 00:09:40.720 years later, we actually became the open 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.760 space division, which was really 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:47.519 exciting. Uh, we were able to develop in 00:09:43.760 --> 00:09:50.640 1993 the BOS action management plan. And 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:54.640 then, uh, just recently we updated that 00:09:50.640 --> 00:09:56.560 in 2023. It's now called the BOS um I'm 00:09:54.640 --> 00:09:58.240 sorry BOS assessment update 00:09:56.560 --> 00:10:00.000 prioritization 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:02.240 and we were also then able to come into 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.600 a formal agreement with MRGCD. So that's 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:06.000 just kind of a little bit of the 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.440 history. The two books I want to 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:12.320 reference that I um actually it is on 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:16.000 this slide uh but you can't read it. 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:19.680 Anyways, this is that the BOP the BOS 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:22.320 updated I'm sorry assessment BOS 00:10:19.680 --> 00:10:24.240 assessment and updated prioritization. 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:25.920 It's a mouthful. You don't have to say 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.600 it, but you can look it up online and 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:30.240 it's free and you could download it to 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:33.120 read it. It's got a great history of the 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.800 state park and of our management 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:36.959 responsibilities and areas that we've 00:10:34.800 --> 00:10:39.200 been prioritizing over the next five 00:10:36.959 --> 00:10:41.519 years. This was finalized by city 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.760 council just recently. And then this one 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:45.920 is a blank spot on the M map. This is 00:10:43.760 --> 00:10:48.000 also on our web page. And this is the 00:10:45.920 --> 00:10:49.839 history of open space, including the 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.920 story that I just gave you, written by 00:10:49.839 --> 00:10:54.480 the two previous superintendents, 00:10:51.920 --> 00:10:56.000 Matchmater and Rex Funk. A really great 00:10:54.480 --> 00:11:00.040 read. If you haven't read this yet, 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:00.040 please do so. It's right online. 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:07.279 All right. So, this this is a huge list 00:11:04.640 --> 00:11:08.959 of all of the partners. Um, so first 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.920 off, I just want to say what do we 00:11:08.959 --> 00:11:14.399 manage the BSK for? It's for the just 00:11:11.920 --> 00:11:16.079 general day-to-day operations, trash 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:19.279 cleanup, maintaining recreation 00:11:16.079 --> 00:11:20.720 facilities, the parking lots. We do um 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:22.959 we're involved in maintaining 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:25.680 restoration projects that other partners 00:11:22.959 --> 00:11:28.880 like the core or the water authority 00:11:25.680 --> 00:11:31.360 have put in place. Um, and also doing um 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:33.440 our own direct restoration projects and 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:36.240 in low uh supporting low impact 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:38.320 recreation and education. There are many 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:40.560 other entities who have a role within 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:43.040 the BSE. Uh the middle Rio Grand 00:11:40.560 --> 00:11:45.920 Conservancy District of course uh has a 00:11:43.040 --> 00:11:47.600 major role and I know Casey Casey Ish 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:50.320 who is the director of the lands and 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:52.160 conservation program a new office that 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.279 they have developed is here. He was 00:11:52.160 --> 00:11:55.839 sitting over there so I don't see him 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:58.480 now. Okay. And so if you have questions 00:11:55.839 --> 00:12:00.079 specific to MRGCD uh Casey is a 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.440 wonderful person to talk to and he's 00:12:00.079 --> 00:12:05.519 going to be sticking around during our 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:08.320 breakout sessions. Um, we also have the 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:10.000 AMAFA, the Albuquerque uh met 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:12.079 Metropolitan and Royal Flood Control. 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:15.440 They have their drainage areas come into 00:12:12.079 --> 00:12:16.800 the BSK. Bernal Leo County and uh the 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.720 city of Albuquerque Department of 00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:20.639 Municip Municipal Development have 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:24.000 drainage areas, storm water outfalls 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:25.920 that go into the bals. We have the APD 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.760 conservation officers, Albuquerque Fire 00:12:25.920 --> 00:12:29.200 and Rescue, Bernalo County, New Mexico 00:12:27.760 --> 00:12:31.279 State Forestry, New Mexico Game and 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.440 Fish, New Mexico State Land Office, New 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.959 Mexico Interstate Stream Commission, US 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.839 Army Corps of Engineers, Bureau of 00:12:34.959 --> 00:12:41.279 Reclamation, Bos Ecosystem Monitoring 00:12:37.839 --> 00:12:42.959 Program, SUAD and more. And we also, you 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.720 know, a lot of us are part of one group 00:12:42.959 --> 00:12:46.639 called the Middle Rio Grand Endangered 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.880 Species Collaborative. So, we are 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:51.279 sharing best practices and having 00:12:48.880 --> 00:12:52.639 science-led decisions uh through that 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.880 collaborative. that's been in place for 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:57.519 a long time. They have a great website 00:12:54.880 --> 00:13:00.800 and um that's been a really big way for 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:02.480 us to communicate and um you know share 00:13:00.800 --> 00:13:05.120 practices not just for this section of 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:06.480 the boss. 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.440 All right, but we have a lot of 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.800 challenges. Um our partners up and down 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.800 the middle Rio Grand Valley have 00:13:10.800 --> 00:13:14.639 challenges. We have some very unique 00:13:12.800 --> 00:13:16.480 challenges here in the Albuquerque 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:18.480 Bernalo County area because we are in 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:21.120 the heart of the city. The biggest 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:23.040 population is right here. How lucky are 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.959 we to have a river that runs through the 00:13:23.040 --> 00:13:27.440 heart of our city? But there's some 00:13:24.959 --> 00:13:29.360 challenges to that, right? Well, what 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:32.160 are the challenges? We're dealing with 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.800 persistent drought and drying now of the 00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:38.320 river. That is a huge issue for all of 00:13:34.800 --> 00:13:41.279 us and we see it right now. The the now 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:44.720 fires and the fuel loads, forest health 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.800 in general, storm water pollution, 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.639 recreation impacts. We love recreation. 00:13:46.800 --> 00:13:51.600 We want people to use the BSK, but use 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:54.000 it responsibly. use it responsibly and a 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:57.600 lot of unauthorized uses whether it's 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:59.680 ATVs or encampments or you know other 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:03.000 things that you know are not allowed but 00:13:59.680 --> 00:14:03.000 they're happening. 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.680 This is highlighting a lot of the work 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:10.079 that we've been doing to try to address 00:14:07.680 --> 00:14:12.800 those issues and it's pretty extensive 00:14:10.079 --> 00:14:14.720 and this is just the recent stuff. So um 00:14:12.800 --> 00:14:16.399 because you can't read this well I'm 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.920 just going to do a quick read and I'm 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.800 almost done because I think I'm close on 00:14:17.920 --> 00:14:22.480 time. Okay. So, we started a Bowski 00:14:20.800 --> 00:14:24.240 Stewards program. We have a robust 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.320 volunteer program and our volunteer 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.160 coordinator is here, Jonathan Donovan in 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.519 the very back. He's going to be sticking 00:14:28.160 --> 00:14:31.519 around too for people who want to 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:33.760 volunteer. We have the trail watch 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:36.160 volunteer program, a fire watch 00:14:33.760 --> 00:14:38.240 volunteer program, and now a dedicated 00:14:36.160 --> 00:14:40.160 Bossy Stewards program. That's in 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:42.320 addition to big events that we do like 00:14:40.160 --> 00:14:44.959 the one we recently had, the National 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:47.040 River Cleanup or the upcoming one in 00:14:44.959 --> 00:14:48.880 October, which is Dia Del Rio. two big 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:51.040 events we have, but we have events 00:14:48.880 --> 00:14:54.560 happening year round all the time. We're 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:57.120 engaging volunteers, youth crews, uh 00:14:54.560 --> 00:14:59.279 students, uh people of all walks of life 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:01.120 in the BSK to help us to steward and 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:04.399 care for this place. So again, it takes 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:07.519 a whole village. It truly does. Um the 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:10.079 postfire remediation hazard uh hazardous 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.920 fuels reduction and infrastructure. 00:15:10.079 --> 00:15:14.240 Recently, we're here to talk about the 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:16.560 project we've just done here. We also 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:18.480 were busy trying to or removing the 00:15:16.560 --> 00:15:20.320 wires from the jetty jacks in 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.760 preparation to remove the jetty jacks 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.399 here and we'll be doing that work 00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:25.839 elsewhere. Um, and we've also been 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.160 dealing with where there had been big 00:15:25.839 --> 00:15:30.480 fires like over at Publo Mano and 00:15:28.160 --> 00:15:32.880 continuing to deal with, you know, weed 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:35.519 encroachment, hazardous trees, all that 00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:38.320 kind of stuff. and continuing to work in 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:40.000 the central area where we had a big FEMA 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.839 project that gave us a million dollars 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:44.639 to do a big thinning project of about 00:15:41.839 --> 00:15:47.040 200 acres. In fact, I know our our staff 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:49.759 and partners were out there just today. 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:53.759 Restoration and habitat improvements. Um 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:55.759 well we had 788 students uh and that 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:58.720 doesn't even include the adults over a 00:15:55.759 --> 00:16:00.560 hundred that just for the winter months 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.800 uh were out through this river exchange 00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:05.199 program that we do with CUDA to bring 00:16:02.800 --> 00:16:07.120 out students in the BSK and help us with 00:16:05.199 --> 00:16:09.680 planting and seeding and doing other 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.680 restoration work. Again, we have our 00:16:09.680 --> 00:16:14.160 youth crews out there year round doing 00:16:11.680 --> 00:16:16.639 really amazing work, getting life skills 00:16:14.160 --> 00:16:18.720 that they can turn into employment while 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:21.519 we are getting the support we need for 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:23.360 projects um and and working with a lot 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:25.279 of contractors. We've been doing low 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.839 impact recreation, improving trails, 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:29.600 bridges, and uh stairs. Just a little 00:16:27.839 --> 00:16:32.399 teaser, we're going to be doing a 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:34.880 designation for a Cliff Crawford trail 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:36.240 uh for his birthday on July 30th. I'm 00:16:34.880 --> 00:16:37.839 going to be sending out a flyer soon. 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.600 And I would love for you all to attend 00:16:37.839 --> 00:16:42.320 that if you know who Cliff Crawford is 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:45.839 who started the BOS ecosystem monitoring 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:48.000 program. Wonderful human being. Um and 00:16:45.839 --> 00:16:50.480 then we also have a lot of the regular 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.399 operations and management. I am really 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:55.199 proud to say that the city has stepped 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:57.839 up to provide more support specific to 00:16:55.199 --> 00:16:59.839 the BSK. We have a number of new 00:16:57.839 --> 00:17:03.040 positions that we either have recently 00:16:59.839 --> 00:17:04.880 filled or about to fill. a boss manager, 00:17:03.040 --> 00:17:06.959 our current project coordinator who 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.439 you'll meet here soon, our forester 00:17:06.959 --> 00:17:11.520 who's in the room, we have a biologist 00:17:09.439 --> 00:17:14.079 we're going to be hiring for soon. We 00:17:11.520 --> 00:17:16.240 have two full-time technicians and four 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.319 temporary technicians. That is in 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.480 addition to the rest of the staff that 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.720 we have who also come at time in times 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:24.559 to support the Bowski management. And 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:27.120 then we were given dedicated funding by 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:30.000 our city council and supported by the 00:17:27.120 --> 00:17:32.320 administration over $700,000 in this 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:34.880 current fiscal year. And thanks to a lot 00:17:32.320 --> 00:17:37.039 of advocacy of uh the public, we have 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:39.840 money, I know uh coming into this next 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.200 fiscal year, too. Um so, you know, we're 00:17:39.840 --> 00:17:42.400 just going to keep doing all the good 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.080 work that we do and you're going to 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:46.160 learn more about the specifics of that 00:17:44.080 --> 00:17:48.160 work that we specifically are doing and 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.840 our partners are doing with these next 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.902 presentations. So, thank you all. Thank 00:17:49.840 --> 00:17:54.922 you very much. 00:17:52.902 --> 00:17:54.922 [applause] 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:16.160 All right, our next presentation is um 00:18:13.840 --> 00:18:18.880 about postkefires response and 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:20.400 management with Lieutenant Karina 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:24.200 Hernandez. 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:24.200 So come on. 00:18:24.997 --> 00:18:27.017 [applause] 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:40.000 Good evening. Thank you all for being 00:18:37.919 --> 00:18:43.440 here. I'm Lieutenant Karina Hernandez. I 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:46.320 am the AFR wildland coordinator and I 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:48.400 oversee all wildland operations for the 00:18:46.320 --> 00:18:50.880 department. So um I'm just going to 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:53.440 touch on uh the Bosa fires just the 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:55.919 challenges that we face that when we 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:59.400 come in and uh try to suppress these 00:18:55.919 --> 00:18:59.400 Bosa fires. 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:07.360 So these are some common um wildland 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:11.200 fire causes. Uh the two main ones it's 00:19:07.360 --> 00:19:14.160 human and lightning. uh back in uh '09 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:17.679 when I first started uh wildland 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:21.120 actually it was in ' 07 uh the 00:19:17.679 --> 00:19:23.600 the main cause of uh wildfires was uh 00:19:21.120 --> 00:19:28.480 lightning strikes and that was at 70% 00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:30.640 with human cause 30%. Uh now uh human 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:34.400 cause here in the metro area we're about 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:37.120 90% of human cause fires and 10% 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:42.000 lightning. So, uh, another cause is 00:19:37.120 --> 00:19:45.200 just, uh, chainsaws. Um, 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:49.360 so anytime there's high winds, um, winds 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:52.799 exceeding 15 mph, uh, we ask that, uh, 00:19:49.360 --> 00:19:55.679 if you are cutting, um, you stop until 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:57.919 the winds, uh, calm down. So, uh, just 00:19:55.679 --> 00:20:01.160 sparks. So, any sparks will also cause, 00:19:57.919 --> 00:20:01.160 uh, wildfires. 00:20:01.919 --> 00:20:06.559 Uh, so these are just the challenges 00:20:03.520 --> 00:20:10.720 that we face. So just the heavy uh 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:13.039 vegetation here in the bos jetty jacks 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:17.520 um just the limited access that we have 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:21.440 in the boss. So um in the metro area our 00:20:17.520 --> 00:20:24.480 bos it's kind of uh remote for us to get 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:28.720 our our units in. Uh we don't have very 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:30.960 many access uh particularly on the west 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:34.720 side. uh east side we have some access 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:36.799 points but um access uh it's very 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:40.559 limited and that's another challenging 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:43.559 um part of to uh suppress uh basket 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.559 fires. 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:53.280 So with the prevention and risk 00:20:49.520 --> 00:20:55.840 reduction, so uh no burning allowed uh 00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:59.360 in the metro area, open space, city of 00:20:55.840 --> 00:21:03.600 Albuquerque, we are level one uh 00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:07.280 restrictions. So that's uh no burning, 00:21:03.600 --> 00:21:11.600 no campfires, um 00:21:07.280 --> 00:21:15.799 uh no camping, uh trails are still open, 00:21:11.600 --> 00:21:15.799 um and no firework use. 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:22.640 And another prevention would just be the 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:25.120 the fuel reduction projects that um will 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:28.720 be um ongoing at some point. Thank you 00:21:25.120 --> 00:21:31.960 to Open Space um parks and wreck and 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:31.960 their partners. 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:43.919 So just a little bit about the 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:49.679 wildfires. Uh traditionally, uh wildfire 00:21:43.919 --> 00:21:52.320 season is from March till November. Here 00:21:49.679 --> 00:21:56.640 in the metro area, just because of our 00:21:52.320 --> 00:21:59.760 uh dry conditions, um high temperatures, 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:03.280 uh windy conditions, um it's year round 00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:05.200 for the metro area. So, um we don't have 00:22:03.280 --> 00:22:08.440 a traditional fire season. It's it's 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:08.440 year round. 00:22:11.679 --> 00:22:17.360 Uh these are just the resources that AFR 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:21.440 uh has. We do have five dedicated 00:22:17.360 --> 00:22:23.760 wildland fire stations and it's a it's a 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.840 task force. So with the task force, if 00:22:23.760 --> 00:22:29.039 they are activated, it's going to be the 00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:33.360 five wildland engine trucks. Uh we do 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:36.400 have two uh suppression UTVs and then 00:22:33.360 --> 00:22:41.280 it'll be myself. So um with the task 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:43.039 force it's a total of 35 personnel and 00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:45.120 with 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:46.799 uh additional if we need additional 00:22:45.120 --> 00:22:49.520 resources would be the the mutual aid. 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:52.000 So in Albuquerque, that is what the task 00:22:49.520 --> 00:22:56.559 force is would be the the five Wland 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:00.159 engines uh including myself. 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:02.320 And then also with uh being red carded 00:23:00.159 --> 00:23:05.600 uh everyone is red carded to fight 00:23:02.320 --> 00:23:09.280 wildland fires at the basic level. Uh so 00:23:05.600 --> 00:23:12.400 that's over 750 members that I do have 00:23:09.280 --> 00:23:14.559 to uh red card annually. So it takes 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.679 about a couple of months to red card 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:20.480 them. So, every year we uh do an annual 00:23:17.679 --> 00:23:23.280 pack test refresher. Uh the cadetses uh 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:25.520 they get put into the wildland week and 00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:29.919 they come out of the academy certified 00:23:25.520 --> 00:23:34.080 at the basic level. I do have over 180 00:23:29.919 --> 00:23:36.880 advanced firefighters with probably um 00:23:34.080 --> 00:23:39.880 over 50 that go above the advanced 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:39.880 level. 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:49.679 So just with the AFR response uh with 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:53.440 AFR you know it's a rapid response uh so 00:23:49.679 --> 00:23:55.200 uh seconds means uh something that we 00:23:53.440 --> 00:24:00.159 you know getting there on scene 00:23:55.200 --> 00:24:02.720 immediately so rapid response and um 00:24:00.159 --> 00:24:06.400 we're the task force is ready and 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:10.080 available uh all year so 365 days out of 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:13.279 the year 247 so all three shifts They 00:24:10.080 --> 00:24:17.480 staff these trucks all year at the five 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:17.480 dedicated wildland stations. 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:30.159 This slide just shows the level uh fire 00:24:27.919 --> 00:24:32.559 restrictions. So stage one, two, and 00:24:30.159 --> 00:24:34.960 three, but we're always at a one all 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:37.919 year. Um 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:42.640 if we do get to uh level two then we 00:24:37.919 --> 00:24:47.840 will have to close trails down. So um 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:49.919 last year we did get fairly close um but 00:24:47.840 --> 00:24:52.640 we were on hold. We we made some other 00:24:49.919 --> 00:24:55.640 mitigations just to prevent uh 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.640 wildfires. 00:24:57.760 --> 00:25:03.840 And this is what the public can do. Um, 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:07.360 so if you see smoke, fire, report it 00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:09.520 immediately. 911. Um, 00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:12.559 when reporting these fires, just try to 00:25:09.520 --> 00:25:14.400 give the exact location. A Latin long 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.960 works perfect for us. But if you don't 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:21.120 have those capabilities, just some type 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:22.799 of uh major intersection, uh, the axis, 00:25:21.120 --> 00:25:24.159 uh, but a Latin long is the most 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:27.679 accurate points to get us there 00:25:24.159 --> 00:25:30.880 immediately for rapid response. And uh 00:25:27.679 --> 00:25:33.919 if you see any suspicious activity, uh 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:36.880 you would just call 242 cops. Uh don't 00:25:33.919 --> 00:25:38.640 approach the individual. Uh 242 cops is 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.640 where you would report suspicious 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.640 activity. 00:25:42.320 --> 00:25:47.520 And if we do have an active wildland 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:51.440 fire, if we do uh have a fuel reduction 00:25:47.520 --> 00:25:53.760 project, uh we just respect 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.640 the trail closure 00:25:53.760 --> 00:25:58.880 and so we can keep uh those perimeters 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:01.880 safe when there's it's a it's a hazard 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.880 zone. 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:07.840 And then just the uh community 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:12.159 awareness. It's important that on this 00:26:07.840 --> 00:26:14.799 one. Yep. Oh, so this one is a 00:26:12.159 --> 00:26:18.159 is an app that you guys can upload on 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:20.240 your smartphones. Uh instead of calling 00:26:18.159 --> 00:26:23.760 the 311, you have the option to call 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:25.679 311, but the app uh you can like if 00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:28.240 you're going to report the uh fire, 00:26:25.679 --> 00:26:31.039 suspicious activity, uh any type of 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:33.279 hazard in the bos uh the app is 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:35.760 accurate. um when you pull up the app 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:38.080 and you're there um it'll give you the 00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:41.200 accurate Latin longs and you're able to 00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:43.360 also take pictures. Um so I do recommend 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:47.640 you guys uh uploading this app. It's a 00:26:43.360 --> 00:26:47.640 little bit quicker than calling 311. 00:26:49.840 --> 00:26:56.240 Uh these are just some uh platforms uh 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:59.600 that I also uh recommend suggest that 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:04.559 you guys upload on your smartphones. Uh 00:26:59.600 --> 00:27:06.480 so with uh watch duty uh watch duty um 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.799 it wasn't only firefighters but seemed 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:11.520 to at the time uh it was firefighters 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:14.799 that were we were the ones that uh were 00:27:11.520 --> 00:27:17.279 keeping track of wildland fires. Uh as 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:19.279 of last year with the California fires 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:22.080 they did put those on the billboards on 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:27.200 the highways for uh the public to stay 00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:31.760 informed of large complex wildfires. And 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:35.520 this uh app will give you uh real time 00:27:31.760 --> 00:27:38.400 um data that it will if 00:27:35.520 --> 00:27:41.360 an area is going to go into evacuation, 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:43.919 it'll have like the the uh green, 00:27:41.360 --> 00:27:47.279 yellow, red evacuations and kind of 00:27:43.919 --> 00:27:50.799 notifying uh the public that you know 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:53.840 you're in a evacuation category one, 00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:59.039 two, or three. 00:27:53.840 --> 00:28:02.799 Uh the other two it's um the Smart 911 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:05.039 app. Uh that one is for the city of 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:07.919 Albuquerque, that one uh you would 00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:09.760 create a profile and you would select 00:28:07.919 --> 00:28:11.200 all the alerts that you would like to 00:28:09.760 --> 00:28:13.440 get alerted for. So if you want to be 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:16.320 alerted for wildfires, 00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:18.559 uh any uh floods, uh you name it, 00:28:16.320 --> 00:28:20.480 there's a long list and you would get 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:23.279 notified. And that's for the city of 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:26.399 Albuquerque metro area. the Everbridge. 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:29.120 Everbridge is Bernalo County. I just 00:28:26.399 --> 00:28:31.679 also recommend that you upload that app 00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:34.720 and create a profile and you would also 00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:37.120 get alerted that anything close to our 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:40.320 jurisdiction uh Bernalo County, you also 00:28:37.120 --> 00:28:42.640 get alerted uh for their wildfires. Um I 00:28:40.320 --> 00:28:44.720 do after the break um after the 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:46.960 presentation on the breakouts I do have 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:49.960 a hard copies on how to upload these 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.960 apps 00:28:51.679 --> 00:28:55.600 and that's all I have questions or are 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.039 we going to save it for the breakout? 00:28:55.600 --> 00:28:59.919 Okay. 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.320 Can you tell us if 00:28:59.919 --> 00:29:02.880 smoking? 00:29:02.320 --> 00:29:04.399 Smoking. 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:08.240 Yeah, we see somebody there and they're 00:29:04.399 --> 00:29:11.600 in there smoking. Legal or not? 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:16.480 Um for critical conditions right now. 00:29:11.600 --> 00:29:19.520 Um, no because any yeah any any little 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:23.360 spark and even if they throw their body 00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:25.919 the fuels are extremely dry. So um in 00:29:23.360 --> 00:29:29.679 February 00:29:25.919 --> 00:29:32.480 we had a fire after midnight and light 00:29:29.679 --> 00:29:36.240 winds and very dry fields and we had a 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.760 quarter acre fire. So there that right 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:42.640 there told me that we were going to have 00:29:37.760 --> 00:29:45.600 a very busy season. So uh no smoking. So 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:48.240 it's something that um it's kind of out 00:29:45.600 --> 00:29:51.840 of our control. It's just us to educate 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:54.240 the public and so 00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:56.240 yeah. So don't 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.440 ask questions after the breakouts you 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.840 guys can ask. 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:03.290 Yeah. So the next presentation. Yes. 00:29:59.840 --> 00:30:03.290 Thank you. [applause] 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:10.640 The next presentation is Yueno Padia and 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:13.520 he's with um New Mexico State Forestry 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:16.159 to give us a state perspective on boske 00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:18.955 hazards and fuels reductions. So come on 00:30:16.159 --> 00:30:20.975 up. 00:30:18.955 --> 00:30:20.975 [applause] 00:30:52.080 --> 00:30:55.080 Yeah. 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:05.461 Awesome. Good uh good evening everyone. 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:07.520 Uh, thanks for having me. Um, so as 00:31:05.461 --> 00:31:10.799 [clears throat] as Jacob mentioned, um, 00:31:07.520 --> 00:31:12.799 my name is Uho Padilla. Uh, I am a 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.320 project forester for the Bernalo 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:17.919 district with the New Mexico Forestry 00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:20.919 Division. Um, so yeah, thanks for having 00:31:17.919 --> 00:31:20.919 me. 00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:32.320 Cool. So just a quick overview of the 00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:34.960 presentation I have for you today. Um so 00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:37.360 objectives of the objectives of treating 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:40.000 the boske history of the boske boske 00:31:37.360 --> 00:31:43.200 fire regime native plant species in the 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:46.320 boske non-native invasive plant species 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:49.320 in the bos 00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:49.320 louder. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:54.080 Yeah. 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.000 Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that. Sorry 00:31:54.080 --> 00:32:00.240 about that guys. 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:02.080 Um yeah anyhow so the overview um it's 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.519 just objectives of treating the boke 00:32:02.080 --> 00:32:07.360 history of the boske boske fire regime 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:09.120 native plant species of the boske 00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:11.120 non-native invasive plant species of the 00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:14.960 boske [music] and then boske vegetation 00:32:11.120 --> 00:32:18.440 treatments um endangered wildlife um 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.440 habitat improvement. 00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:26.480 So as I mentioned why me why treat the 00:32:21.679 --> 00:32:29.840 boske? Um so our objectives of treating 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:34.080 the boke are to reduce catastrophic fire 00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:37.039 wildfire risk. Um retain and improve um 00:32:34.080 --> 00:32:39.360 native plant species vigor. 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.159 Remove targets invasive plant species 00:32:39.360 --> 00:32:45.760 and reduce fuel load. Improve overall 00:32:42.159 --> 00:32:47.840 skate ecosystem health. Um increase 00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:52.360 public safety. 00:32:47.840 --> 00:32:52.360 improve boske aesthetics. 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:58.880 So just to touch um the history of the 00:32:55.120 --> 00:33:02.000 Boske um the his uh the Boske 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:05.279 historically used to flood um Jetty 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:08.320 Jacks implemented um to stabilize soils 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:11.039 um and channelize the Rio Grand um and 00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:15.640 then this also created a cohort of 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:15.640 cottonwood um stands. 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.960 Um and then also just to touch on fire 00:33:19.840 --> 00:33:24.640 as well. Um 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.720 the boss is not a fire adapted 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.600 ecosystem. Native species such as 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:32.000 cottonwoods are not adapted to fire. So 00:33:29.600 --> 00:33:35.679 even low intensity and low severity fire 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.399 can kill a cottonwood and or create uh 00:33:35.679 --> 00:33:40.080 hazardous uh conditions from from the 00:33:38.399 --> 00:33:43.279 cottonwoods. 00:33:40.080 --> 00:33:48.320 Um and so you know removal of the hazard 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:50.960 trees um are to reduce public risk um 00:33:48.320 --> 00:33:53.039 due to the hazards. 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:56.080 Um and then also we will leave some 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:59.600 snags um and standing dead. So typically 00:33:56.080 --> 00:34:02.240 we see like 6 to 12 um snags left for 00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:06.159 wildlife. 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.639 Um and then I have another section here. 00:34:06.159 --> 00:34:11.119 So class C invasive species such as salt 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.440 cedar and Russian olive have the ability 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:16.399 to vigorously respout. 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:19.440 Um so invasive species they create a 00:34:16.399 --> 00:34:23.119 ladder fuel under the cottonwoods. Um 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:25.359 and so we we like to remove those. Um 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:29.440 and also encourage native species to 00:34:25.359 --> 00:34:32.720 grow. Um and so with more frequent and 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:36.399 severe wildfires eventually if no if not 00:34:32.720 --> 00:34:38.960 treated and this um ongoing wildfire 00:34:36.399 --> 00:34:43.599 frequency occurs 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:46.879 um you know native species are no longer 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:49.599 um retained and the non-native invasive 00:34:46.879 --> 00:34:52.639 species kind of take over. Um and so 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:57.960 that's not the goal. And so we like to 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.960 re retreat and and maintain the boss. 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:04.400 Um so this is just a list of native 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:07.839 species. Um and just a few of them. So 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:10.480 cottonwood, um peach leaf, willow, 00:35:07.839 --> 00:35:13.359 coyote willow, four-wing salt bush, 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:16.400 false indigo, um New Mexico olive, 00:35:13.359 --> 00:35:19.400 backris, yabbervansa, and then salt 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.400 grass. 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:25.359 And then so this is also just a list of 00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:30.079 the native or of the non-native target 00:35:25.359 --> 00:35:33.520 species. Um so class C um invasives is 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:36.160 salt cedar, Russian olive, Siberian elm 00:35:33.520 --> 00:35:39.359 and then um tree of heaven and then I 00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:45.400 have reveness also in there um as we 00:35:39.359 --> 00:35:45.400 also maintain and uh treat those. 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:52.320 And so then here's just a breakdown of 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:55.040 um bowki vegetation treatments. And so 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.079 basically the three boxes are what 00:35:55.040 --> 00:36:00.960 occurs on initial treatment. And so we 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:06.079 have hand thinning plus cut stump which 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:08.000 is um herbicide application and then um 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:11.280 slash management which is either 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.599 chipping or firewood piles and then 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:17.760 basically removing that material out of 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:17.760 the bow to reduce fuel loading. 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.800 Um, and so you can't really see the 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:28.000 photos very well. There's a couple u on 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.960 the left here. Um, they're cut stump 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:35.599 treatment showing blue dye, which means 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:37.839 that herbicide was applied. Um, and and 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:40.880 then in the on the third photo, there's 00:36:37.839 --> 00:36:43.920 a masticator back there. Um and it's 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:47.520 actually uh re rehabilitating 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:50.400 uh dozer line on the unified fire um 00:36:47.520 --> 00:36:55.520 which happened in March. 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:57.920 Um and then here on the right is you 00:36:55.520 --> 00:37:01.520 can't see it at all, 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:04.880 but there's a there's a few um tamar in 00:37:01.520 --> 00:37:07.200 the back um getting herbicide and it's a 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:09.599 folure spray application. And so there's 00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:12.599 no cutting, just folure spray on on the 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.599 leaves. 00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:18.560 And then lastly, um just wanted to 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.400 mention the endangered and threatened 00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:25.280 wildlife species. Um so the southwestern 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.960 will fly catcher, the Rio Grand silvery 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:33.200 minnow, and the yellow bill caku. Um and 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:36.720 so basically our management of the boke 00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:41.680 are are helping to retain their habitat 00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:45.200 um not losing it to fire um and also um 00:37:41.680 --> 00:37:49.240 even potentially planting um and and 00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:49.240 making that habitat larger. 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:55.400 And that's it. That's all I got. Thank 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.400 you. 00:37:59.839 --> 00:38:05.440 All right. Next is uh Dustin Chavez 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:08.160 Davis with the open space division. Um 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:11.040 he's going to talk about the Bowke 00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:13.200 restoration and wildlife habitat plans. 00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:16.680 Um he's a project coordinator with the 00:38:13.200 --> 00:38:16.680 open space division. 00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:22.160 All right. Uh good evening everyone. 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:25.280 Thanks for being out here. Thanks to all 00:38:22.160 --> 00:38:27.040 the partners who put in work on uh the 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.520 boss and on this project that we're 00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:30.960 talking about tonight. And um yeah, just 00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:32.880 grateful that everyone's out here 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.880 expressing their opinions and you know, 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.480 learning about what's happening and our 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.400 management and some of the challenges 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:41.040 and some of the the vision for the 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.800 future that we have. And so, um you 00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:46.400 know, I was asked to speak about 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:47.599 wildlife habitat. And I think um you 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.920 know, the first thing to think about 00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.920 really is why are we all here here in 00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.839 Albuquerque, right? It's because of the 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.560 river. It's because we have water, 00:38:53.839 --> 00:38:59.440 right, that supports us, supports life 00:38:56.560 --> 00:39:01.680 here. And um you know, the the river, 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:05.200 the Rio Grande corridor is an important 00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:06.880 habitat um for many different species. 00:39:05.200 --> 00:39:09.040 Um you know, when we're talking about 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.880 about habitat, we're we're not just 00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:13.599 talking about, you know, mammals, right? 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.359 Humans, but um all of our non-human 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:18.079 relatives, too. So, all the way down, 00:39:15.359 --> 00:39:20.880 right? That's the fish in the river, the 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:22.960 birds up in the sky and in the trees. 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:25.440 And uh you know in the soil too the m 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.520 the the insects, the microbes, the fungi 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.520 that are out there uh decomposing the 00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:31.839 the wood and you know providing that 00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:35.112 that cycle that we all rely on, right? 00:39:31.839 --> 00:39:35.112 Uh [clears throat] 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.640 so we've done um a lot of studying of 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.240 the life that that lives along the 00:39:40.640 --> 00:39:44.480 river, right? And so we're not making 00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:47.280 these decisions in a vacuum just, you 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.040 know, single-mindedly focused on on one 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.680 thing. We're looking at the whole 00:39:49.040 --> 00:39:54.160 ecosystem together in its entirety, 00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:55.599 right? Um, and so we've we've worked 00:39:54.160 --> 00:39:58.480 with a lot of partners to do these 00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.640 studies, right? Ecologists, biologists, 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.880 uh, folks who are experts in wildlife, 00:40:00.640 --> 00:40:04.960 folks who are experts in soil health. 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.720 Um, and so we've, you know, Colleen 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:09.520 mentioned the Bowske assessment and 00:40:06.720 --> 00:40:11.119 update plan. Uh, we we've been working 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:14.240 off of the Bowske action plan for the 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:15.920 last 30 years, but we have an update now 00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:18.160 that's looked at the current conditions, 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.160 right? And we're looking at the water, 00:40:18.160 --> 00:40:23.359 uh the depth to the groundwater, right? 00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:25.280 We're looking at uh the vegetation cover 00:40:23.359 --> 00:40:27.680 um you know, what is the structure of 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:31.119 that vegetation? Is it open meadow and 00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:33.599 grasslands? Is it densely uh vegetated 00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.280 with non-native invasive species? Is it 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:37.599 open cottonwood? Right? There's lots of 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:39.359 different variety within the boss. And 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.960 so we want to, you know, support a 00:40:39.359 --> 00:40:44.320 variety of different habitats for 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:46.240 different uh wildlife. 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.920 Um, you know, Yueno mentioned the 00:40:46.240 --> 00:40:49.599 threatened and endangered species. I 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.079 think that's uh an important thing to 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:54.079 keep in mind, right? We all know that uh 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.040 we do have some of those species that 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:59.119 live in our in our Bose case ecosystem. 00:40:57.040 --> 00:41:02.400 Uh from the silvery minnow, right, in 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:04.480 the in the water to the um fly catcher 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.880 and the cuckoo that are the endangered 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:08.800 birds in the system. Um, you know, we've 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.160 also done some some projects and 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.160 planning around supporting our 00:41:10.160 --> 00:41:14.240 pollinators, which are another important 00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:16.319 um aspect of the the wildlife habitat 00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:18.480 that we're trying to preserve. So, you 00:41:16.319 --> 00:41:20.560 know, we did the um river for monarchs 00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:23.359 planting where we planted uh milkweed 00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:26.000 and provide providing habitat for those 00:41:23.359 --> 00:41:27.839 insects, bees, and um you know, other 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.960 you know, the monarch butterfly which is 00:41:27.839 --> 00:41:34.160 also uh threatened, right? Um so, yeah, 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:37.200 we worked with GSA on our habitat uh 00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:39.119 action plan. um that looked at this area 00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:42.560 here uh between Campbell Road and 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.480 Montano. Um we also have done a thinning 00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:46.319 project down between Central and Bridge 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.119 where we have done a lot of studying as 00:41:46.319 --> 00:41:50.960 well. Um you know assessing what um 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.760 vegetation is out there where we might 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:56.319 need to address uh invasive or noxious 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:59.119 weeds and you know just kind of overall 00:41:56.319 --> 00:42:01.200 assessing the health of the of the boss. 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:03.280 And um you know we did target this area 00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:06.240 because of some heavy fuel loads because 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:08.240 of dense invasive uh vegetation that uh 00:42:06.240 --> 00:42:10.560 existed there. 00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:12.880 Um 00:42:10.560 --> 00:42:14.880 so yeah we we did mapping. We looked at 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.280 inundation zones as well. So like where 00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:19.839 is the water going to go if we do get 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.520 good runoff? Um you know what is the 00:42:19.839 --> 00:42:22.880 depth to the groundwater because that's 00:42:21.520 --> 00:42:24.720 really important for our native 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:26.800 cottonwoods and willows to rely on that 00:42:24.720 --> 00:42:28.560 connection to the groundwater table. Um 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.160 and we did a lot of this field work. you 00:42:28.560 --> 00:42:32.960 know, it was boots on the ground. Us 00:42:30.160 --> 00:42:34.880 with open space and with our uh partners 00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.280 looking at, you know, learning how to do 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:40.319 soil auguring and and you know, looking 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:41.440 at the texture. Is it clay? Is it sandy? 00:42:40.319 --> 00:42:44.079 You know, is it going to be able to 00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:48.040 support um a cottonwood or whatever we 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:48.040 may decide to plant there. 00:42:55.040 --> 00:43:01.520 So um trying to advance the next slide 00:42:58.720 --> 00:43:04.000 here but the outcome of this plan was 00:43:01.520 --> 00:43:05.599 you know a lot of data and you know some 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.319 of that data we were able to present in 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:10.720 maps that told us a story about what's 00:43:08.319 --> 00:43:12.560 happening right and so this you know 00:43:10.720 --> 00:43:14.319 example is looking at the vegetation 00:43:12.560 --> 00:43:16.640 structure and so assessing you know is 00:43:14.319 --> 00:43:19.440 there a healthy canopy is there open 00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:20.640 areas is there annual weeds um and 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.440 trying to make some, you know, 00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:25.920 management decisions based on that. Uh, 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.000 next, um, getting into a little more 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.640 detail here on the Campbell to Montano 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:32.560 section, we looked at, um, the fuel 00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:34.720 loads, you know, so these areas in red, 00:43:32.560 --> 00:43:37.119 and we have a a poster print out here 00:43:34.720 --> 00:43:39.280 where you can see we assessed that there 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:41.599 was heavy fuel load in there, heavy 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.200 invasive species mostly, but, you know, 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:45.040 that was an area of concern that was 00:43:43.200 --> 00:43:46.800 brought to us by neighbors here and we, 00:43:45.040 --> 00:43:48.480 you know, collected some data. We looked 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.839 at what's out there and we agreed, you 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.520 know, there was some work maybe that 00:43:49.839 --> 00:43:54.560 needed to be done to reduce the risk of 00:43:51.520 --> 00:43:57.280 a of a catastrophic fire here. Um, you 00:43:54.560 --> 00:43:59.760 know, we talked with Karina about uh 00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.480 fire response as well. And so that's why 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.319 we mapped out where the jetty jacks are 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:07.040 and you know working we've been working 00:44:04.319 --> 00:44:09.359 with um the state historic preservation 00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:12.560 office and our partners with MRGCD and 00:44:09.359 --> 00:44:14.240 with um the Bureau of Reclamation and um 00:44:12.560 --> 00:44:16.319 Army Corps of Engineers to get approval 00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:18.319 to remove them to increase you know 00:44:16.319 --> 00:44:20.640 access and make it safer and easier for 00:44:18.319 --> 00:44:22.240 first responders to respond to a fire if 00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:24.240 there is one. 00:44:22.240 --> 00:44:26.079 Um, so we've started the first phase of 00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:28.319 those removals, pulling out the wires 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.400 that tie the jacks together, and we'll, 00:44:28.319 --> 00:44:33.359 you know, continue that work in the fall 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.040 after, uh, migratory bird season is um, 00:44:33.359 --> 00:44:36.800 completed. 00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:38.560 Um, so really, you know, we're looking 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:41.119 at greater 00:44:38.560 --> 00:44:42.640 uh, diversity of our vegetation. Um, we 00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.640 want to see things that are going to 00:44:42.640 --> 00:44:48.079 support, you know, different species 00:44:44.640 --> 00:44:49.599 and, um, you know, reduced dominance by 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:53.599 those invasives that we've mentioned, 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:55.200 right? Um, so, um, we're trying to make 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.119 a more sustainable system, right? It's 00:44:55.200 --> 00:44:59.359 it's about the diversity being more 00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.200 resilient and, you know, helping us to 00:44:59.359 --> 00:45:04.720 create this habitat that we're we're 00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:06.000 shooting for. So, next, 00:45:04.720 --> 00:45:08.000 um, and we're doing it, you know, with 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.760 lots of partners. Again, we talked about 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.839 some of these target species that we've 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:13.680 been removing. Um, we've been working 00:45:11.839 --> 00:45:16.160 with Rocky Mountain Youth Corps in this 00:45:13.680 --> 00:45:17.599 area, reestablishing the trails, you 00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:19.599 know, removing some of that dead and 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.240 down wood out, chipping it up. We hauled 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:24.000 out, you know, tons of of of mulch from 00:45:22.240 --> 00:45:25.760 the site. And that mulch is going to a 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.520 lot of good places, working with, you 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.079 know, our local farmers and community 00:45:27.520 --> 00:45:31.760 gardens and school gardens. Um, other 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.359 restoration areas where we need a little 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.839 bit of ground cover to help hold in 00:45:33.359 --> 00:45:37.440 moisture. Um, you know, so that mulch is 00:45:35.839 --> 00:45:38.720 going to a good home. It's not just, you 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.920 know, going to the landfill or 00:45:38.720 --> 00:45:42.000 something, but, you know, we're actually 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:44.160 reusing it and trying to, um, recycle 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.480 that material. 00:45:44.160 --> 00:45:49.760 Um, you know, this is kind of the reason 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:51.599 why this project again was focused on um 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:54.079 removing some of those invasive species. 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:56.800 They form really dense colonies. It's a 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:59.760 monotypic stand, right? So, we know 00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:02.079 there's less diversity. There's less um, 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:04.319 you know, structural diversity for that 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.760 wildlife rely on. So, you know, these 00:46:04.319 --> 00:46:07.839 are some of the reasons why we targeted 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.760 some of this thick Russian olive and and 00:46:07.839 --> 00:46:12.000 tree of heaven that that's in growing in 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.680 this area. 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.680 And what we're shooting for is a mosaic 00:46:13.680 --> 00:46:17.040 of different habitats. So again, it's 00:46:15.680 --> 00:46:19.280 probably not going to be a straight 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:20.800 stand of cottonwood trees in the future. 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.319 We'll see more diversity in there. 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.760 There's going to be shrublands. There's 00:46:22.319 --> 00:46:26.400 going to be grassland. There's going to 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.880 be uh you know, hopefully open water, 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:30.319 you know. Um but those that's kind of 00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:32.079 what we're looking for in the future is 00:46:30.319 --> 00:46:34.000 to see, you know, diversity of different 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:36.640 species, diversity of different 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.800 ecosystem, you know, function and and 00:46:36.640 --> 00:46:40.560 types. 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.000 Um, and that's what we're going to be 00:46:40.560 --> 00:46:44.160 focusing on, you know, for the next 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:47.119 couple months and years. Like, this is a 00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:48.400 long-term plan. Um, and we're seeing, 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.040 you know, some of the seeds that we've 00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:53.599 planted are growing, right? So, we 00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:55.760 planted, um, over 800 backeras within 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:57.599 the last year. That's a native shrub 00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:00.000 that flowers that brings in a lot of 00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.680 pollinators. Um, you know, we planted 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.839 Rocky Mountain bee plant in our mix 00:47:01.680 --> 00:47:05.760 that's coming up. There's, um, you know, 00:47:03.839 --> 00:47:07.839 grasses and and ground cover that's 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.599 getting established. So, um, you know, 00:47:07.839 --> 00:47:11.760 I'm hopeful that we'll see things 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:14.319 growing back in areas that we've treated 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:17.359 quickly. Um, if we get rain, like it a 00:47:14.319 --> 00:47:18.880 lot of it is dependent on, um, getting 00:47:17.359 --> 00:47:21.599 our monsoons, you know, that we're 00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:22.880 praying for. So, um, that's, yeah, some 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.480 of the things we're looking at with our 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.240 restoration work going into the future. 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.400 And there's always a role for volunteers 00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:30.000 to play. Colleen mentioned that. We've 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.839 got Jonathan here, our volunteer 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.480 coordinator. So, you know, we want to 00:47:31.839 --> 00:47:36.160 engage people in that process as well. 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.760 And yeah, if there's any questions, you 00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:41.072 know, I'll be with the wildlife habitat 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:43.092 group. So, thanks. 00:47:41.072 --> 00:47:43.092 [applause] 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.720 All right, we have one last presentation 00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:53.920 before we'll have the opportunity to 00:47:50.720 --> 00:47:55.520 break into groups and have uh more 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.920 targeted discussions about these 00:47:55.520 --> 00:48:00.000 different topics. So, the the last 00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:02.079 presentation is Ricky Reedi. He's the 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.160 forest health manager for SEU doad soil 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:07.839 and water conservation district and he's 00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:12.040 going to talk about the prescription for 00:48:07.839 --> 00:48:12.040 uh fuels reduction in the post. 00:48:15.359 --> 00:48:18.960 Hey everybody um I'm Ricky 00:48:18.408 --> 00:48:20.720 [clears throat] 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:23.440 not used to talking to a microphone. Can 00:48:20.720 --> 00:48:25.359 you hear me? Cool. Um so yeah I'm the 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:27.520 forest health manager with CU do soil 00:48:25.359 --> 00:48:32.000 and water. This is Joshua. He's my boss. 00:48:27.520 --> 00:48:34.079 Um, and yeah, so, 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.359 uh, just to start out, um, want to give 00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.520 a little bit of background on who we are 00:48:35.359 --> 00:48:38.960 and why we're involved. So, we are your 00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:42.280 local soil and water. Can I take this 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.280 off of you? 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:02.280 did something. 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.280 Sure did. 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.720 Sorry. 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.880 I don't know. 00:49:12.720 --> 00:49:17.839 So, uh we're CU dot Soil and Water 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:19.599 Conservation District. Um we cover most 00:49:17.839 --> 00:49:22.400 of Bernalo County as well as the 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:24.319 southern half of uh Sandaval County to 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:26.240 the north. Um so there's a map up there 00:49:24.319 --> 00:49:27.920 showing in yellow our district 00:49:26.240 --> 00:49:29.359 boundaries. We are beyond those 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.200 boundaries with various partners at 00:49:29.359 --> 00:49:34.160 different times as it makes sense for us 00:49:31.200 --> 00:49:36.240 to um and we're a local special district 00:49:34.160 --> 00:49:38.720 and we're tasked with conserving and 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:41.760 improving natural resources in the 00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:43.920 metropolitan area um to those boundaries 00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:46.000 and beyond. Um, our program areas 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:48.079 include forestry, watersheds, 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:50.960 agriculture, youth education, adult 00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:53.440 education, and more. Um, I've got 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.599 another photo, um, map up here. I know 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.640 it's all hard to see, but um, a lot of 00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.920 folks are pretty familiar with the 00:49:56.640 --> 00:50:02.559 Bernalo County um, shape there. And this 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:04.480 map is a composite risk map for wildfire 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:06.640 that's taken from our community wildfire 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:10.319 protection plan, which was developed in 00:50:06.640 --> 00:50:12.640 2022. Um, covers the entire county. And 00:50:10.319 --> 00:50:15.680 what this map is showing is not just 00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:18.079 risk of fire due to vegetation or due to 00:50:15.680 --> 00:50:20.800 proximity to resources, but it's also 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:23.440 considering um those things in addition 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:25.359 to about eight other criteria filtered 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:28.640 through. The more red on the map, the 00:50:25.359 --> 00:50:31.359 more at risk. So east mountains, lots of 00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:33.119 red. We all know that. Um but in here, 00:50:31.359 --> 00:50:35.359 we see a lot more red through this 00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:38.559 strip. And that's the Bosi. Um so we 00:50:35.359 --> 00:50:42.480 have really similar um identified fire 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.640 risk through that area um along the Bosi 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:46.160 as we have in the East Mountains. Can 00:50:44.640 --> 00:50:49.440 you 00:50:46.160 --> 00:50:53.119 Thank you. Um and again uh so as far as 00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:55.040 forestry at CUDAD um we complete forest 00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:57.119 health and wildfire wildfire fuel 00:50:55.040 --> 00:50:59.680 reduction projects with various partners 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.280 on upland and riparian forests all 00:50:59.680 --> 00:51:03.440 through the east mountains cedar crest 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.680 to Harris Ponderosa pine down here on 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:09.440 the Bosi and Carneua on the um 00:51:05.680 --> 00:51:11.760 tributaries to the Rio Grand as well. Um 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.920 we assess project sites forestry project 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:18.079 plans and provide project management. 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:19.599 Um, a main thing that, um, we do to 00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:22.240 complete all of those projects is 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:25.760 maintaining a list of qualified forestry 00:51:22.240 --> 00:51:27.119 contractors. Um, and so everyone who 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.800 works with us is on a professional 00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:31.520 services agreement with us. It's a high 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:35.359 bar for them to get on that list. Um, 00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:37.599 and they work um, that agreement that we 00:51:35.359 --> 00:51:40.640 have with all of them defines the scope 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:44.960 of work that they might do within our 00:51:40.640 --> 00:51:48.240 programs. Um this map here on the 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:51.680 um slide is again showing uh some data 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:53.839 from our CWPP, our community wildfire 00:51:51.680 --> 00:51:56.960 protection plan, and those are all 00:51:53.839 --> 00:52:02.000 identified um distinct communities at 00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:06.000 risk. Um so we're looking at um southern 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:09.040 half of Albuquerque here and again um 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:11.040 we're seeing a lot of identified risk um 00:52:09.040 --> 00:52:15.920 in communities directly adjacent to the 00:52:11.040 --> 00:52:17.839 BOSI and that's due to um the difficulty 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.599 for firefighters to get in there and 00:52:17.839 --> 00:52:23.520 address fires when they do start as they 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:26.480 frequently do. Um and also the amount of 00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:29.680 vegetation loading that is in there. Can 00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:33.520 you go to the next? Um, so then we get 00:52:29.680 --> 00:52:36.720 into the actual prescription for 00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:39.920 Campbell to Montano. Um, so open space 00:52:36.720 --> 00:52:41.680 division um in part from feedback from 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.680 the neighborhoods started working with 00:52:41.680 --> 00:52:46.880 geosystems analysis to develop a 00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:50.480 vegetation plan for this area. Um part 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:53.359 of that plan um [clears throat] outlines 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:56.079 high, moderate, and low priority areas 00:52:53.359 --> 00:52:58.240 in regards to fuels reduction fuels, 00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:01.520 meaning those invasive species that a 00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:03.680 few presenters before talked about um 00:53:01.520 --> 00:53:07.040 that are typically not natives, but not 00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:09.440 exclusively. Um and also all the 00:53:07.040 --> 00:53:13.599 accumulation of dead and down that we 00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:16.640 see. Um so from that plan um open space 00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:19.920 GSA New Mexico Forestry Division and 00:53:16.640 --> 00:53:22.000 Sead worked collaboratively together to 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:24.480 write a prescription for one of our 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:27.571 contractors to come in and do a fuels 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.559 reduction project here that achieves 00:53:27.571 --> 00:53:30.960 [clears throat] those objectives of 00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:33.040 fuels reduction protects other values 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:34.880 and follows the parameters of the 00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:38.440 professional services agreement we have 00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.440 with our contractors. 00:53:39.040 --> 00:53:45.760 So, from that, I wanted to show a couple 00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:47.040 of lines from um that prescription. Um 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.680 if I slapped the whole thing up here, 00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:50.960 you definitely couldn't read it. Um but 00:53:49.680 --> 00:53:53.040 some of the things we're doing is we're 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.520 not cutting any alive cottonwood or 00:53:53.040 --> 00:53:58.880 other native species in these stands 00:53:55.520 --> 00:54:00.960 unless necessary for personal safety. Um 00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:03.200 stockpile areas for chip material or 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:06.000 removed logs are coordinated with open 00:54:03.200 --> 00:54:08.160 space. Um, so a big aspect of these 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:11.359 projects is removing the overall fuel 00:54:08.160 --> 00:54:13.280 load. And we talked a lot about the 00:54:11.359 --> 00:54:15.119 non-native species, but also there's a 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.960 lot of scessing, dying back of the 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.400 cottonwoods and other natives. So 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.520 there's a lot of dead and down on the 00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:21.760 ground. I know a lot of you have been 00:54:19.520 --> 00:54:23.680 out there um chipping away at some of it 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:26.079 over the last couple years yourselves. 00:54:23.680 --> 00:54:27.440 Um, so thanks for for doing that. So you 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:30.640 know how hard it is, how much there is 00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:32.720 out there. Um so another aspect of these 00:54:30.640 --> 00:54:35.359 projects is that dead and down removal 00:54:32.720 --> 00:54:37.839 component and it's a lot of work to deal 00:54:35.359 --> 00:54:40.400 with that but really critical. Um so we 00:54:37.839 --> 00:54:42.800 have all dead and down material 4 in or 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:44.800 greater in diameter should be removed. 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.520 So that's a spec we look for within 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:49.520 these projects. And then ultimately no 00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:51.440 fuelwood slash slash meaning the 00:54:49.520 --> 00:54:55.440 branches that might come off of trees 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:57.680 that are small um smaller trees um and 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.240 chips will be left inside project site 00:54:57.680 --> 00:55:04.480 acres um because we're trying to remove 00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:06.400 that fuel risk component um from the 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:08.720 BOSI. And then at the end of each of 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:10.800 these projects a full inspection is 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:12.640 conducted by New Mexico Forestry 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:16.240 Division personnel. typically a project 00:55:12.640 --> 00:55:19.280 forester such as Uenoyo. Um so those are 00:55:16.240 --> 00:55:21.760 some highlights of the prescription. 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:24.400 These are like five bullet points out of 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:27.680 like 45 that go into a prescription 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:30.480 plan. Um and we have an image here of 00:55:27.680 --> 00:55:33.200 some of the work in progress. So um 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.119 there's some larger uh target species 00:55:33.200 --> 00:55:37.119 tree that's cut there still on the 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:39.040 ground yet to be removed. You can see 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.000 some of the blue dye there. The reason 00:55:39.040 --> 00:55:44.079 that's used is so um the contractors and 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.680 us and the inspectors can see exactly 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:47.359 where has been treated and they know 00:55:45.680 --> 00:55:49.119 things aren't getting hit twice and we 00:55:47.359 --> 00:55:51.599 know that we're hitting the target 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:55.680 species. So that's why that blue dye 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:58.160 gets used. Um next 00:55:55.680 --> 00:56:01.119 uh just a couple more photos of the work 00:55:58.160 --> 00:56:04.319 in progress. um a little tough to see um 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:07.040 tonight, but um this one on the right is 00:56:04.319 --> 00:56:09.599 from this most recent 16 acres that we 00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:11.520 were able to complete in the time frame 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.200 that we had. So that's another thing we 00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:16.079 have to balance all the time is 00:56:13.200 --> 00:56:17.680 available funding and time frames. So um 00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.760 it was kind of tight on this one and we 00:56:17.680 --> 00:56:22.720 did as much as we could in a really 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:25.200 tight window to um pretty good effects 00:56:22.720 --> 00:56:29.280 considering um we are running right up 00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:31.839 to spring. Um, and so can't see too 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:33.920 much, but um, a lot of invasives have 00:56:31.839 --> 00:56:35.200 come out of that photo. On the right, on 00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:37.920 the ones on the left, we see some 00:56:35.200 --> 00:56:40.319 temporary chip piles that get staged. A 00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.400 lot of you have probably seen those um, 00:56:40.319 --> 00:56:44.559 throughout these projects. And those get 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:47.920 removed um, as they can throughout 00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:49.760 projects. And then just one more. 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:52.000 Um, so I don't know how well this is 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.599 coming through either, but um, this is a 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.920 before and after. This is actually from 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:58.640 the FEMA project a couple years ago. 00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.480 This is right by Tingley Beach. Um, and 00:56:58.640 --> 00:57:03.839 the red circle you see this is the exact 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:05.359 same photo point um on the left as it is 00:57:03.839 --> 00:57:07.680 on the right. And that's just before 00:57:05.359 --> 00:57:10.960 treatment where we see really dense 00:57:07.680 --> 00:57:14.400 under midstory um of Siberian elm and 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:16.319 other target species. Um, and then on 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:19.599 the right just a short time later where 00:57:16.319 --> 00:57:21.200 it's much more open. you can see um to 00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:24.640 the base of the remaining trees and 00:57:21.200 --> 00:57:27.280 there's actually a lot of um understory 00:57:24.640 --> 00:57:30.799 trees that you can't see in that photo 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:32.480 because it's winter time. Um so 00:57:30.799 --> 00:57:35.040 conditions where we are in a lot of 00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:38.480 places currently on the left and then 00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:41.640 we're moving towards on the right there. 00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.640 Thank you. 00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:48.119 I think it will be 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.119 available 00:57:50.240 --> 00:57:54.280 online. It will be 00:57:59.200 --> 00:58:02.200 all 00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:10.000 tax and so we paid for this project. So 00:58:06.799 --> 00:58:12.079 I don't understand why we are not 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:16.160 allowed to ask questions in a large 00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:16.160 session and we have to 00:58:16.319 --> 00:58:22.440 because I think of things to say 00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:26.839 much more 00:58:27.839 --> 00:58:31.720 than one of the 00:58:31.839 --> 00:58:37.200 different 00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:39.440 individuals. 00:58:37.200 --> 00:58:42.079 Well, um that's that's our plan here is 00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:43.839 that we want to um let you talk to each 00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.520 of these individuals. That's why we were 00:58:43.839 --> 00:58:47.280 hoping we could break into groups so 00:58:45.520 --> 00:58:50.000 that you could go from one group to the 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:52.640 next to ask questions to each of them. 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.720 If we're all here, we have to go one by 00:58:52.640 --> 00:58:56.480 one and some people may just have a 00:58:54.720 --> 00:58:59.200 question for one person and then want to 00:58:56.480 --> 00:59:02.720 leave. So that was the that's the idea 00:58:59.200 --> 00:59:05.599 is to give more access to everyone um to 00:59:02.720 --> 00:59:07.440 all of the speakers that are here today. 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:10.079 So that's that's our goal. 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.200 Like to hear from each other 00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:16.799 and bounce ideas off and what they have 00:59:13.200 --> 00:59:20.520 to say to you and hear you respond back. 00:59:16.799 --> 00:59:20.520 Much preferred over 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:26.400 you've taken quite a bit of time to to 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.599 talk and you've given us a lot of in 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.520 our 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:32.240 and we do want to hear that input. We 00:59:29.520 --> 00:59:33.920 will have also our plan is we're having 00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:36.480 somebody in each of those sessions 00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:38.400 taking notes so that we'll have all of 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:40.960 everybody's questions written down so 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:43.280 that we can share it back. 00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:44.640 Will that share it online? 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.640 Yeah, we can share it online. 00:59:44.640 --> 00:59:47.640 Absolutely. 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:55.520 All right. So, the plan is to um have 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:58.799 wild wildlife 00:59:55.520 --> 01:00:02.079 habitat and restoration planning um up 00:59:58.799 --> 01:00:02.079 in this corner. 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:13.359 We can do more more of these sessions. 01:00:11.359 --> 01:00:15.359 We do have the opportunity to come back. 01:00:13.359 --> 01:00:17.839 We don't want to be here all night, but 01:00:15.359 --> 01:00:20.559 we can do more sessions. Um, we want to 01:00:17.839 --> 01:00:23.440 give everyone the opportunity to to ask 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:25.839 questions to the people that are here. 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:28.319 Give us an opportunity. 01:00:25.839 --> 01:00:31.040 That's what 01:00:28.319 --> 01:00:33.119 So that answer 01:00:31.040 --> 01:00:34.799 so that we can all hear the answer 01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:38.839 because if you're in one group and you 01:00:34.799 --> 01:00:38.839 don't hear the answer from the other 01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:45.119 I think we would have the opportunity to 01:00:42.640 --> 01:00:47.520 to answer all the questions with this 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:50.880 many people if we have the opportunity 01:00:47.520 --> 01:00:52.799 to break into groups. So and please go 01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:54.480 from one group to the other. If you want 01:00:52.799 --> 01:00:57.359 to hear from each other you can have 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.280 those conversations. Um, we want to make 01:00:57.359 --> 01:01:02.319 sure that there's access for everyone to 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:05.119 be able to talk to each other. Um, to 01:01:02.319 --> 01:01:07.520 talk to all the people here. If we just 01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:10.160 are doing one at a time, it's going to 01:01:07.520 --> 01:01:12.000 take much longer and we won't have the 01:01:10.160 --> 01:01:14.400 opportunity to hear everyone. 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.799 We have 20 minutes. 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:18.400 We have 20 minutes. 01:01:16.799 --> 01:01:21.920 We have 20 minutes before the place 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.920 closed down. Closes down. So,